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tj_dragonbladeI honestly don't know why I'm posting this, except that I seem to have a need to talk it through before I go do what I'm pretty well already decided to do.
I think I'm going to read a fic. Or few.
This is of course not a strange thing in and of itself. But...see, it's DS9 slash fic. And while sure I spent a good three years or so thoroughly immersed/obsessed in the show back in the day (has it really been...holy crap, it's been 13 years since then...), it predates my exposure to yaoi/slash. Garak and Bashir were always my absolute favorite characters (hell, I had a very Sue-ish virginal crush on Bashir with many a ficcish entry in my old diaries to prove it, but we won't go into that. ^_^; ). But I never, ever would have thought to put them together. I was only just beginning to grow beyond the tenets of the religion in which I'd been raised; sex (much less homosexuality or anything resembling it) was pretty well the farthest thing from my mind.
That said, I fully recognize that if I was discovering the fandom now, the probability is astronomically high that I'd be a die-hard rabid Garak/Bashir fangirl. The idea appeals to me, I can look back and see boatloads of material to go from, and truth be told, there's a part of me that counts myself a silent fangirl and wants to go exploring it now anyway.
But. On the other hand, there's the fact that slash relationships in fandoms that predate my introduction to slash weird me out like you wouldn't believe. Something on the order of tampering with childhood nostalgia/innocence/illusions and the like. Which has left the whole idea of Garak/Bashir tucked up in the corner shelf of the back storage closet in my mind.
Until a couple days ago. See, in the course of recent KakaIru binge reading, I turned up an author's website containing a nice neat list of everything s/he's written by fandom, and a couple sections below Naruto it said DS9. With three fics listed, all Garak/Bashir, none of them rated below R.
I can't tell you how long I stared at that, deliberating, pondering, dancing back and forth on the issues in my head, blushing all the while, no less, hovering over the links and not quite sure if I really wanted to click.
In the end, I left it alone.
But the idea has not returned the favor. It's been quietly poking at the back of my brain ever since, insidious and subversive (it's Garak, for gods' sakes; what else did I expect?); I've gone back and stared at the links awhile more one day, avoided them the next, went back and actually clicked one, skimmed far enough to place the story in canon and then hastily retreated before I could really absorb anything else.
I'm...wary, cautious...or perhaps skittish, I guess is the best word. I'd liken it to running into an old friend after several years and discovering that what used to be purely platonic now has a sexual undercurrent and trying to decide if exploring that undercurrent is worth risking/altering the old friendship.
Do I want to sexualize these characters in my mind? Yes, of course, says one part of my mind, and Oh dear lord what am I *thinking*? says another.
I'm reminded of my introduction to Hakuryuu porn, in a way, with the equal pull of fascination vs. squick.
Seeing how well that's turned out, though, it's something of an inevitibility that I'd break down and read the fics. I mean, stepping outside one's comfort zones every so often is a good thing, right?
There's also the concern about quality of writing - is it going to be IC? Feel right? God help me, I don't think I could handle Garak and mushy-sap in any context to one another without suffering a mental processor crash of biblical proportions. Error. Error. Does not compute.
But this author in question did a perfectly decent job of it with KakaIru, so odds are the Garak/Bashir wouldn't be dreadfully OOC either. That really can't be an excuse.
Neither can the pre-slash fandom thing, honestly, when I look at Xmen and where I tend to stand on Logurt nowadays. It's really just a matter of deciding to pursue and getting past that threshold.
Which I guess means I'm off to read. The R-rated one; plunging headlong into an NC17 is probably not the best of ideas at this point. Really, I'd probably do better with a softer rating straight out of the gate, but...well. Here I am.
Wish me luck.
...And it's odd as fucking hell that the iPod should present with the current music as I'm writing this post - DS9 is the only reason I know and have the song. Though I'd like very much to have a version with Avery Brooks' vocals, instead. *eyes the Pod with suspicion*
I think I'm going to read a fic. Or few.
This is of course not a strange thing in and of itself. But...see, it's DS9 slash fic. And while sure I spent a good three years or so thoroughly immersed/obsessed in the show back in the day (has it really been...holy crap, it's been 13 years since then...), it predates my exposure to yaoi/slash. Garak and Bashir were always my absolute favorite characters (hell, I had a very Sue-ish virginal crush on Bashir with many a ficcish entry in my old diaries to prove it, but we won't go into that. ^_^; ). But I never, ever would have thought to put them together. I was only just beginning to grow beyond the tenets of the religion in which I'd been raised; sex (much less homosexuality or anything resembling it) was pretty well the farthest thing from my mind.
That said, I fully recognize that if I was discovering the fandom now, the probability is astronomically high that I'd be a die-hard rabid Garak/Bashir fangirl. The idea appeals to me, I can look back and see boatloads of material to go from, and truth be told, there's a part of me that counts myself a silent fangirl and wants to go exploring it now anyway.
But. On the other hand, there's the fact that slash relationships in fandoms that predate my introduction to slash weird me out like you wouldn't believe. Something on the order of tampering with childhood nostalgia/innocence/illusions and the like. Which has left the whole idea of Garak/Bashir tucked up in the corner shelf of the back storage closet in my mind.
Until a couple days ago. See, in the course of recent KakaIru binge reading, I turned up an author's website containing a nice neat list of everything s/he's written by fandom, and a couple sections below Naruto it said DS9. With three fics listed, all Garak/Bashir, none of them rated below R.
I can't tell you how long I stared at that, deliberating, pondering, dancing back and forth on the issues in my head, blushing all the while, no less, hovering over the links and not quite sure if I really wanted to click.
In the end, I left it alone.
But the idea has not returned the favor. It's been quietly poking at the back of my brain ever since, insidious and subversive (it's Garak, for gods' sakes; what else did I expect?); I've gone back and stared at the links awhile more one day, avoided them the next, went back and actually clicked one, skimmed far enough to place the story in canon and then hastily retreated before I could really absorb anything else.
I'm...wary, cautious...or perhaps skittish, I guess is the best word. I'd liken it to running into an old friend after several years and discovering that what used to be purely platonic now has a sexual undercurrent and trying to decide if exploring that undercurrent is worth risking/altering the old friendship.
Do I want to sexualize these characters in my mind? Yes, of course, says one part of my mind, and Oh dear lord what am I *thinking*? says another.
I'm reminded of my introduction to Hakuryuu porn, in a way, with the equal pull of fascination vs. squick.
Seeing how well that's turned out, though, it's something of an inevitibility that I'd break down and read the fics. I mean, stepping outside one's comfort zones every so often is a good thing, right?
There's also the concern about quality of writing - is it going to be IC? Feel right? God help me, I don't think I could handle Garak and mushy-sap in any context to one another without suffering a mental processor crash of biblical proportions. Error. Error. Does not compute.
But this author in question did a perfectly decent job of it with KakaIru, so odds are the Garak/Bashir wouldn't be dreadfully OOC either. That really can't be an excuse.
Neither can the pre-slash fandom thing, honestly, when I look at Xmen and where I tend to stand on Logurt nowadays. It's really just a matter of deciding to pursue and getting past that threshold.
Which I guess means I'm off to read. The R-rated one; plunging headlong into an NC17 is probably not the best of ideas at this point. Really, I'd probably do better with a softer rating straight out of the gate, but...well. Here I am.
Wish me luck.
...And it's odd as fucking hell that the iPod should present with the current music as I'm writing this post - DS9 is the only reason I know and have the song. Though I'd like very much to have a version with Avery Brooks' vocals, instead. *eyes the Pod with suspicion*
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Date: 2008-04-20 08:38 am (UTC)Ah, 'retarded' ideas are often a lot of fun. The YGO one sounds like a good idea, actually, and...I might be mistaken, but I think someone somewhere may have done something along the lines of that Pokemon bunny already. Though my memory also suggests it was not done particularly well. I'm almost tempted to try it myself. I daren't make any promises, however, seeing as how I've proven reliably unreliable at delivering on promised fics thus far. Not to mention I'm currently drowning in a new fandom. Or rather, a new aspect of an old fandom, and I'm absolutely horrible (historically speaking) about maintaining active participation in more than one fandom at a time. It's a little distressing, even as I'm eagerly gorging on the new stuff (almost everything I've tried is remarkably good), because god help me but I'm not yet ready to let go of Saiyuki. At all. *clings* Which leaves me determined to develop a dual-fandom presence and keep one foot in each ocean, so to speak, instead of leaving one for the other. How can I abandon the dragon, in any form, no matter what sorts of scaled xenophilic possibilities beckon? Why shouldn't I hold both?
And I'm probably going to get myself in trouble having committed this desire/goal/what-have-you to written words, but...eh. What will be, will be.
...That was all rather unrelated to the original point, in the end. My apologies. ^_^;
And y'know, I can't help but imagine that Hakuryuu would become terribly indignant after a very short while of being constantly mistaken for a Pokemon. I see an LJ icon with some dreadfully OOC quote on the order of 'So not a Pokemon, bitch!'. Ahaha. Forgive me. ^_^; He'd probably suffer it with as much dignified resignation as he could muster, but I imagine he'd require quite a lot of 'therapy' from Hakkai once it's all over to recover. *cough*
*headdesk* I have such a hard time resisting once Hakuryuu starts making noise in his little corner of my brain. I make no promises. But there's a possibility something small might come of this.
...On a similar note, I want to make sure you did/do have a chance to see this. (http://tj-dragonblade.livejournal.com/219104.html) Not that I'm looking for comments - I know your schedule is fully loaded. It's just that I'm pretty sure you'd appreciate it, however egotistical my ear thinks that sounds for me to say. ^_^;